I'm with David on this one. Notebooks and the English System had certainly
given way to forms and metric on professional excavations in the northeast
by the late '70s, but overall, the whole set-up looks way too modern to be
from the 1880s. I think someone just wants to make a killing on ebay.
Lauren Cook
-----Original Message-----
From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of David
Babson
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:46 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Request
I believe I have seen a reproduction of this painting, probably as an
illustration in a popular archaeology book. I can't place it exactly,
however, and I was unable to turn it up (not even the eBay link) in a
Google search just now. If I've seen it in a book, sometime within the
past 30 years, it was almost certainly a painting made for the book. Up
to c. 10 years ago, when computer art and clip art became more common,
it was not at all unusual for publishers to commission a painting, or
have one produced by an in-house artist, for a book jacket, cover,
frontispiece, etc., as I'm sure some of our colleagues in publishing can
attest. I agree--the date references on the painting are to 1969 and
1970, not to the 1800s.
D. Babson.
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From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Chris Pickerell
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:08 AM
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Subject: Re: Request
That's kind of what I thought also.......
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe B. Jones" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: Request
> I'd bet that those brushes with the chrome end-cap weren't available
until
> the early to mid-twentieth century, though don't know for sure
off-hand.
>
> Joe
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Benjamin Nance" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:52 AM
> Subject: Re: Request
>
>
> > According to the following link, spiral bound notebooks were first
> > marketed in 1924.
> > http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa121599a.htm
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
> > Benjamin C. Nance
> > Historical Archaeologist
> > Tennessee Division of Archaeology
> > 1216 Foster Ave., Cole Bldg. #3
> > Nashville, Tennessee 37210
> > [log in to unmask]
> > (615) 741-1588 Ext. 21
> > Fax: (615) 532-9942
> >
> >>>> [log in to unmask] 4/14/05 8:47:57 AM >>>
> >
> > Is there a known date for the introduction of spiral notebooks that
can
> > go
> > along with the pencil dating that William provided?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "James L. Murphy" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: Request
> >
> >
> >> Much more likely to have been painted by Dominic A. Staskiews, born
> > 1908
> > in
> >> Poland and died in Elyria, Ohio, in 1990. Or possibly his son
> > Dominic,
> >> still living in Elyria, 300 Washington Ave Elyria, OH 44035-5166.
> > Not to
> >> mention the obvious clues you mention. Certainly not 19th C. And
I
> > notice
> >> that the painting is being sold from Celina, Ohio, a distance but
not
> > that
> >> far from Elyria in terms of estate sales.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >> (440) 323-2754
> >>
> >> At 08:35 AM 4/14/2005 -0400, Chris Pickerell wrote:
> >> >Dear list members,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I have an request that may be of some interest to you. While
> > searching
> > on
> >> >Ebay the other day I came across a painting depicting an
> > archaeological
> >> >scene with arrowheads, a deer (?) jaw bone, two quartz points and
a
> > piece
> > of
> >> >note paper showing the excavation. The painting is purported by
> > the
> > seller
> >> >to have been executed during the 19th century, but clues in the
> > painting
> >> >itself lead me to believe that it is actually form the 20th
century.
> > For
> >> >example, the make of the brush and fact that the note paper
appears
> > to
> > have
> >> >been pulled from a spiral notebook would lead me to believe that
> > the
> >> >painting was executed in 1970 and not 1870. When I pointed this
out
> > to
> > the
> >> >seller he told me that the piece was appraised as a 19th century
> >> >painting.....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >If anyone wants to see the painting they can go to the link below
> > or
> > check
> >> >out item # 7314676911.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7314676911&rd=1&ssp
agen
a
> >
> > me=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >BTW, I am not the seller and will not be bidding!!!!!!!!!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I hope I have not offended anyone by bringing this up, but I am
> > interested
> >> >in hearing your thoughts on this...let me know what you think.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Chris Pickerell
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