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Sorry for the delay in replying but I have been in Holland on a museums
tour - as it happens lead by AnneMarieke Willemsen, a specialist in the
archeology of of medieval childhood who is currently writing a book on
late mediveal schools including their material culture. Orme's book is
an important book on medieval English childhood though not necessarily
the most exciting read. It is basically a demolition of Aries from a
medieval historian's perspective. Its also one of several recent books
that warns that the transition from the medieval to early modern period
didn't necessarily see a revolution in everything.. One of the problems
for European archaeologists has been survival of evidence but
waterlogged deposits have increasingly produced huge amounts of material
from London - much published see my previous email- but there are vast
quantities of material from places like Amsterdam - where there is just
too much to even fully analyse never mind publish-though AnneMarieke has
hopes she will do something on the Amsterdam toy/child finds.
paul
Barbara Hickman wrote:
>Paul, are you familiar with Nicholas Orme's Medieval Children? I was
>wondering what other people thought about it. Barbara Hanawalt's books
>on childhood are okay, albeit brief. BJH
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>Just back from Italy after watching the red sunset over the Venetian
>lagoon (In between bronchitis, getting drenched by a cloud burst and
>bitten by mosquitoes but the pasta, grappa and architecture were great)
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>I havent had time to read this thread but Aries should be read with
>caution. His notion that affectionate parenthood is a very invention is
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>now rejected by most social historians. Rather early modern
>aristocratic
>social life is now seen as rather unusual. A better book is D. Kertzer
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>and M. Barbagli, The History of the European Family vol.1: Family Life
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>in Early Modern Times 1500-1789. Recent toy books include Anne Marieke
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>Willemsen's (1998). Kinder delijt. Middeleeuws speelgoed in de
>Nederlanden - but already out of print.and Hazel Forsythe with Geoff
>Egan, Toys, Trifles and Trinkets: Base metal minatures from London
>1200-1800 (2005). Actually one of the first things you notice in Italy
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>as a northern European is that children and mothers are worshipped..
>On
>the other hand Italian waiters are always shocked when my wife proffers
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>HER credit card.
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>paul courtney
>leicester
>UK
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>George Myers wrote:
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>>CENTURIES OF CHILDHOOD
>>By Philippe Aries. New York: Vintage Books, 1962. 447 pages.
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>>(When NYU assigned it "Childhood through the Centuries" I thought.)
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>>Quick study:
>>http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/philosophy/children/aries.html
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>>George Myers
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