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Vital Gaudreau <[log in to unmask]>
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We've experimented that undrawn Pierco in the brood chamber(s)even during a
flow will not be builded. Anyone to confirm this?
Vital






>From: Grant Gillard <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: [BEE-L] Plastic foundation not drawn out
>Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 04:49:21 -0800
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>The discussion about one-piece plastic frames and foundation seems to have
>died down after identifying a problem with burr comb.  In my little
>operation, I have not noticed any particular burr comb problems with
>Pierco's one-piece that I didn't have with any other wood frame.
>
>However, I have had a different "challenge" that I'd like to hear
>suggestions on.
>
>Maria touched upon it in her thread and her satisfaction with Pierco "once
>they are built."  I also like the one-piece Pierco, but I have a problem
>getting my bees to draw out the comb.  Once they draw it out, they're
>great!  Getting the bees to draw them out is a challenge.
>
>I've tried my best to get plastic foundation drawn out.  I respect the
>standard procedures of only introducing foundation during a flow.  While
>this has worked with some of my colonies, the relative brevity of the
>honyflow limits how many frames can be drawn out.
>
>I've tried spraying with sugar syrup only to have it bead up and roll off
>the waxed coating.  I have noticed how my mediums are nicely accepted, but
>the brood frames less accepted.  Thanks, Allen, I'll take some measurements
>and see if the mediums are the cells are larger!
>
>It has been suggested that I "weave" the plastic foundation between two
>frames of brood.  I'll try it this year.
>
>This past year I tried old Permadent sheets bound in a wood frame from an
>older gentlemen who retired from keeping bees.  I had pretty good success,
>but then our honeyflow ends.  I tried forcing a couple of colonies to
>nothing but plastic foundation and the bees balk and build bridge comb.
>
>This year I've ordered some more Permadent, Pierco, Plasticell and
>Rite-Cell, as well as Dadant's new introdction of EZ-Frames (their
>one-piece).  I'm going to try some side-by-side comparisons.  I'm going to
>compare the one-piece against the wood-bound.  Still, I'd like to hear from
>you all what tricks you use to get plastic foundation drawn out.
>
>All of this has further implications for the increased use of 4.9mm or
>small cell foundation to suppress mites.  It's my understanding that 4.9mm
>foundation made of plastic is now being test marketed.  Without taking
>"opinions" of whether smaller cells work or not, I'd like to know what
>people are doing to get the plastic foundation drawn out.
>
>Grant
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