never mind


At 10:17 PM 12/7/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Dan,
>
>     You keep saying that it is not like any lamp you have seen before, but
>have you seen all forms of lamps ever made by every craftsman? I am not
>trying to be rude, but you sound way too sure of yourself, and don't seem to
>be open to the possibility of it being a lamp/candle holder. There may be
>pieces missing that we cannot see. If the base and cover where the candle,
>or lamp were to site was insulated with some form of flashing, then it would
>most definitely weather the small amount of heat one candle produces. Since
>we do not have the complete item in front of us as it looked when it was
>first made, then we do not know for sure. I'll bet I can find out exactly
>what it is though, with proof. I'll post the proof and exact use for the
>item when I find it, even if my first assessment is incorrect.
>
>     Josh Brinker
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Daniel H. Weiskotten" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 9:10 PM
>Subject: Re: mystery wooden & metal object from San Diego Co.
>
>
> > The function is to hold something, but if any kind of a lamp would fit, as
> > you suggest, then you have me surprised.  It is not deep enough and not
>one
> > lamp I have ever seen has wooden parts, especially when the flame would be
> > right up against the wood, and not from the late 19th century.
> >
> > It clearly cradled something, and it hung on the wall, and it is made with
> > a top and bottom piece of cast iron, and it has a weird do-hicky rod like
> > thing running up it, but it clearly is not a lamp holder.
> >
> >          Dan W.
> >
> >
> >
> > Josh wrote:
> > >Dan,
> > >
> > >     The lamp cover would not necessarily have to be a full round one. I
>am
> > >not saying that I am completely correct, but I do believe I am on the
>right
> > >track though. There are many different variations of lamp holders, so to
>say
> > >that this is definitley not a lamp holder could be a mistake. Not every
> > >design is the most efficient. Like It could have been something that
>someone
> > >just put together to "get the job done" in a pinch when they did not have
> > >the money to buy a fancy holder. I have seen alot of design projects
>built
> > >by engineering students that would never work practically, but they still
> > >built them. Trial and error means alot of mistakes along the way. Just
>don't
> > >say no right away just because it does not look like the traditional form
>we
> > >see everyday.
> > >
> > >     Josh Brinker
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Daniel H. Weiskotten" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 6:20 PM
> > >Subject: Re: mystery wooden & metal object from San Diego Co.
> > >
> > >
> > > > It may look like a hanging lantern platform, but cannot be as the
>platform
> > > > is only a 4 inch deep arc, not a full round base attached to the back.
> > >The
> > > > contraption could not hold a lamp, at least not the kind you are
>thinking
> > > > of, with a mercury reflector behind, as it is only half round and
>mounted
> > > > right against the back.  A hanging lamp platform would project 6 or 8
> > > > inches from the wall and have a large round base.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/oldwaubesafinds/lamp
>h
> > >older.jpg
> > > >
> > > > It also cannot be a twine dispenser as they need to be fully round to
>hold
> > > > the ball of twine.
> > > >
> > > > It does appear to be made in the very same fashion, with very similar
> > > > design of the cast iron, even giving the appearance of being some sort
>of
> > > > store fixture from the turn of the 20th century, but its form just
>doesn't
> > > > cut it for the function.
> > > >
> > > > What it is I haven't a clue ...
> > > >
> > > >          Dan W.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 04:30 AM 12/7/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > >Josh et al,
> > > > >
> > > > >Josh, I think you have nearly got it! My grandparents had a cabin in
>our
> > > > >local mountains that depended on kerosene lamps for lighting. The
>wall
> > > > >lamp in the kitchen had a dish-shaped mirror (not a shield) to
>reflect
> > >the
> > > > >light throughout that portion of the room. It really increased the
>light.
> > > > >I suspect Carol's artifact is missing the mirror as well as parts to
>hold
> > > > >the light source (kerosene, whale oil, etc.) in place.
> > > > >
> > > > >Ron May
> > > > >Legacy 106, Inc.
> > > >
> >