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Sun, 3 Feb 2002 18:50:59 -0800
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Hi to all on BEE-L


Wow!,
Pb wrote about stingless bees in the Yucatan for proof of
what was here, prior to for our various honeybee types of
today.

Wouldn't Abbe D. Francesco Saverio Clavigero be
thrilled!!!!!

He wrote there are at least six different kinds of bees in
our new world way back in the mid 1700s.

1. The 1st is the same as the common bee of Europe, with
which it agres, not only in size, shape and color, but also
in its disposition and manners, and in the qualities of its
honey and wax.

2. The 2nd which differs from the 1st only in having no
sting is the bee of Yucatan and Chiapa.

3. The 3rd species resembles in its form, the winged ants,
but is smaller than the common bee, and without a sting.
(Note - two stingless bees now. - Dee here).

4. The 4th species is a yellow bee, smaller than the common
one, but like it, furnished with a sting.

5. The 5th is a small bee furnished with a sting, which
constructs hives of an orbicular form, in subterranean
cavities, and the honey is sour and somewhat bitter.

6. The 6th is the Tlalpiprolli, which is a black and yellow
bee, of the size of the common bee, but has no sting (wow-
3 stingless bees - Dee here)

Now a wasp called a Xicotli or Xicote, is a thick black
wasp, with a yellow belly, which makes a very sweet honey,
in holes made by it in walls., but though written about was
listed seperate.

So I guess he listed 6 bees and 1 wasp he saw.

Now, if just the one stingless was in the Yucatan which is
on the Mexican pennisula and not of the main continent of
S. America or the main continent of N. America, how come we
all just think stingless bees were here first????? and with
the Mayans!!!! Peter, are you sure about just stingless
bees?

What about the Incas, the Aztecs, the mound people in the
Southern USA back east and HOpi, Navajo, etc tribes of the
Southwest, and tribes from up north???? or even the Western
Coast of the N. America (wasn't there a land bridge
supposed to be there? and of course all came across it,
even the insects, with the exception of bees - for only
stingless crossed, or where there others? Maybe a land mass
plate shift between the Americas and/or Europe/Africa and
only stingless where on our side.)

Just what are the bees of the Americas????

Regards,

Dee A. Lusby


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