I don't think that is a problem- they perhaps never got broke or did so 50
years later. More of  a problem is the lack of parallels and its still a
very odd form. But then yesterday someone showed me a 16th century vessel
type that I have never
seen and i am still baffled.

paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charpentier, Roberta" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: vessel types


> If these are lids then where are the sherds for the containers that the
lids
> went on?  I have a couple of feather edge creamware plates, a creamware
> creamer, and three of these "lids".  We have not finished the MVC yet but
> I'm not seeing any hollowware sherds.
>
> Roberta Charpentier
> Archaeology Lab Supervisor
> Mashantucket Pequot Museum and Research Center
> 110 Pequot Trail
> Mashantucket, CT  06338
> Phone:  860-396-6936
> Fax:  860-396-6914
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: paul courtney [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 2:50 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: vessel types
>
> I have already suggsted to Roberta they might be lids. In fact they are
> virtually identical to some lids from 16th century Stoke wares I have just
> wriite up but I have never seen anything like this in creamware.
>
> paul courtney
>
>
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: "Meta Janowitz" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 7:19 PM
> Subject: Re: vessel types
>
>
> > Hi Roberta,
> >
> > Well these are oddities.  From the pictures it is hard to see if the
bases
> > are simply broken off or ground down?  The shape of the bases (if they
are
> > the bases and not broken off finials) is, as you said, not typical for
> > creamware.  If they were lids, they might not have a flange if they fit
> > onto bodies in the manner of Chinese covered cups of the 18th century.
> The
> > clue is probably in how the bases/finials were removed, but we are
without
> > any good suggestions.
> >
> > Meta