Mike Leghorn wrote:

>>Btw, did you know that Beethoven took the dah dee daahhh, duh dah dah
>>dee deeeeeee theme (without modification) from a Mozart overture.  I don't
>>remember the name of the overture, but I did hear it once, and that theme
>>stuck out as clear as day.

Richard Pennycuick replied to Mike:

>The overture to Bastien et Bastienne, K50.  There's certainly a similarity,
>but I wouldn't like to speculate whether Beethoven lifted it from WAM's
>overture.  There are also slight thematic connections between Beethoven's
>3rd Piano Concerto and WAM's #24, but I don't think it's intentional.

Thanks for informing of the overture.  I've been trying to find that out
so I could listen to it again.  I my memory serves me correctly, there
is a part in the overture where the "Eroica" theme comes out very loud
and clear.  The similarity between Mozart's C minor Piano Concerto and
Beethoven's C minor Piano Concerto is more than coincidental, but I don't
think it's as striking as the similarity between the Eroica and Mozart's
overture.

Mike