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Steve Schwartz schrieb:
>The harm of Beethoven is that most people don't like the music. It thus
>creates a schism between intellectuals and normal people. This is bad.
>Intellectuals are bad. Intellectuals are troublemakers. Normal people
>are God's Gift. Therefore, we really shouldn't have Beethoven.
It doesn't take Beethoven to create a schism between intellectuals and
normal people. This schim will always be there. And there will always be
intellectuals. Like me. Troublemakres, eh? I take this as a compliment.
(And the world would be much poorer without Beethoven, by the way.)
>Schoenberg isn't avant-garde. But even if he were, so what? I have
>absolutely no interest in the avant-garde because it's avant-garde.
So you like the good old stuff - which once was avant-garde. See how
strange you argue?
>Of course I would, because Hafiz has influenced that tradition, especially
>in the late 19th century and in the 1960s and 1970s US. The "deep image"
>school of American poetry came under Hafiz's (and Persian poetry in
>general) influence, just as the late 19th century and the Twenties were
>influenced by Japan.
That doesn't make Hafiz a Western guy. He remains Oriental.
Robert
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