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Tim,
You should send him a copy of Von Daniken, and/or a copy of that book by the guy who
thinks the Sphinx is about 10,000 years old as an example of your scholarly
ecumenism. Is this the same guy who thinks that native peoples were smelting iron in
Ohio before Euro contact?
Was worth a chuckle. Thanks for sharing.
Best,
Jason
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Jason Menard
Department of Anthropology
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
239 Appleby Hall
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Tim Tumberg wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Below is a copy of an off-list response I received regarding my recent post
> about the Kensington Runestone. I wasn't too surprised to hear someone taking
> issue with my comment about the stone having been debunked, but I must admit
> that I was rather taken aback by the tone. I actually thought I was just
> sharing an amusing little anecdote. The response does seem to tie in to
> an earlier remark on the thread regarding the way archaeological credentials
> are challenged. Considering that I have never met the person who sent it,
> he seems to know an awful lot about my "lack of credentials." I'm sure my
> former and current professors will be dismayed to learn that they have been
> unable to teach me anything about good academia, but that I continue to
> display my arrogance, ignorance and chutzpah.
>
> Because I have no particular desire to exacerbate a flame-throwing session,
> I have not included the individual's name or email address. The person who
> sent the message is not a member of this list, but my original post was
> forwarded by someone who is. I am curious as to the list-member's motivation.
> Were you aware the message was going to a potentially explosive personality?
> I hope I'm not out of line in suggesting some discussion about what is appropriate
> to share with those off the list. Until now, I have naively assumed that
> the list is a forum for rational scholarly debate. I'll certainly be more
> careful from now on. At any rate, perhaps I'm too thin-skinned, but I feel
> kind of bad about being lambasted in this manner. If anyone has a similar
> story to share, my misery would love company.
>
> Polemically yours,
> Tim Tumberg
>
> I am always amazed at the arrogance and Chutzpah of so many of the debunkers.
> I wonder where they get their "expertise"??????My grandparents grew up within
> 20 miles of Ohman's farm but I do not claim any special position nor divine
> inspiration as a result.....I'm just a semi- retired lawyer with a BS degree
> fom NDSU and a JD degree fom Michigan who studies Viking matters as a hobby.
> BOTH PRO AND CON RE AUTHENTICITY. Frankly I am appalled at the ignorance
> spewed out with such authority as by Tumberg.
> Have you read the debunked and inaccurate publications by Birgitta Wallace
> or Erik Wahlgren? Is Tumberg aware of the 1994 publications by the eminent
> linguist from Cornell Prof Robert A. Hall or the work of Dr Richard Nielsen.(See
> his article in the January 2000 issue of the Journal of the West)....Or
> for that matter of Thor Heyerdahl who stated in his new book Ingen Grenser
> "There exists not the slightest concrete evidence that the Kensington Runestone
> is false." Finally is he aware of the present laboratory studies of the
> stone and the antiquity of the carvings (Studies which should have been
> made long ago BEFORE the debunking started)? What does he say about the
> studies of Winchell et al back in 1910 which concluded the Stone and its
> engravings were of great antiquity?
> I get upset when I read of things like Tumberg's Comments and wonder why
> they feel such nonsense is necessary. For me as with Heyerdahl neither side
> has established their case and all the evidence needs to be reviewed by
> a panel without pre-conceived notions.....that further study is needed AND
> SHOULD NOT BE DISCOURAGED AND THAT POLEMICISTS SUCH AS TIM TUMBERG ARE NOT
> GOOD ACADEMICIANS.
>
> *****************************
> Timothy A. Tumberg
> Department of Anthropology
> Emil W. Haury Building
> University of Arizona
> Tucson, AZ 85721
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