Pablo Massa:

>Steve Schwartz (about the musical preferences of monkeys):
>
>>The authors were loathe to speculate much on the meaning of these results
>>and noted that there was no scientific, objective way to measure a degree
>>of atonality.  Is this really true?

Just a note.  I didn't write this.  And I agree with Pablo's comments
below.

>I think that this is true.  Measuring atonality is just like measuring
>the "degree of legibility" of a text.  In many cases it depends on who is
>listening.  There are people who hear tonics and dominants in Schoenberg's
>pre-dodecaphonic works, and there are many works of XX century music of
>which it would be difficult to say whether they are atonal or not.

Steve Schwartz

 [Misattribution is very serious.  Let's all please be very careful
 to use correct names when attributing quotes to people, especially in
 potentially volitile discussion - such as those we have here.  -Dave]