Aaron J Rabushka <[log in to unmask]> enters a sheer polish:

>I've also heard Beethoven credited with introducing the contrabassoon into
>the symphony orchestra with his fifth symphony.  Has this been changed? (As
>with opera orchestras, the wind serenade orchestras that often included
>contrabassoons constitute a different phenomenon.)

Yes! I think Mr. Sutton in the original post, which I dug up, just mixed
up the kontrabassoons with trombones, because piccolo and kontrabassoon
were the two new instruments in Beethoven 5.

Mats Norrman
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