Satoshi Akima replies to my observation:

>>>And if this is indeed the case, as music approaches this
>>>ideal, most advanced form, it will sound more and more like noise.
>
>I think it is grossly unfair to stereotype all pantonal music
>as being therefore no different to noise

That is not what I said.  Please reread what I wrote.  I did not say that
"all pantonal music is noise".  I did not even say "all pantonal music
approaches this ideal most advanced form".  In fact, I said nothing about
pantonal music.

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