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I heard about an interesting subset of this movement from a panel I  
was on at AAM two or three years ago.  A company called "Think" (not  
"thinc", which was also represented on the panel) talked about the  
application of "folksonomy" to museum collections.  Folksonomy is a  
really ugly neologism, but a very interesting idea, best represented  
on sites like Flikr etc.  Here's a site with some descriptive  
information about the concept as it applies to museum: http:// 
www.archimuse.com/research/steve.html

As I understood what my co-panelist was presenting, a given museum  
would put images of its collection online and allow users to add tags  
that would make the collection searchable.  The genius and  
controversial aspect of this is that the tags could be anything, even  
incorrect information, and they wouldn't be edited by the curatorial  
staff.  For example, a picture by degas of a dancer in a green  
background might accumulate tags such as "degas" "dancer" "green" and  
even "monet."  An online user who wanted to revisit an picture they  
remembered from a visit might be much more likely to look for a kind  
of green picture of a dancer in it than they would be likely to look  
for that wonderful degas or the oil on canvas painting from the 19th  
c or other information that would be more typically included on a  
museum record by a curator.  They might even think that the picture  
was by monet.  So they would be able to find the picture (which is  
after all part of the point) even through that inaccurate tag.  When  
the record came up, it would display the accurate information as well  
as the folksonomy tags.

I can readily imagine that curators would resist this, and I don't  
know the degree to which museum people have applied folksonomy to  
their online image databases.  That's what I get for missing the  
Museums and the Web conference every year!


Eric Siegel
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On Nov 10, 2006, at 7:22 AM, Wendy Coones wrote:

> ISEN-ASTC-L is a service of the Association of Science-Technology  
> Centers
> Incorporated, a worldwide network of science museums and related  
> institutions.
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>
> from the art museum world, the Mass MoCA created a digital gallery  
> called "Your Show Here" where visitors could choose from a database  
> of images to curate their own contemporary art show.  there is a  
> healthy movement within the new media artist and curator scene  
> towards opening up "meaning making" to the interested public, as  
> influenced by a www democratization of knowledge.  seems like the  
> wiki-world (the open encyclopedia) is also part of this.
>
> wendy coones
> scientific staff
> center for image science
> danube universoty krems, austria
>
>>>> Hanna Sathiapal <[log in to unmask]> 10.11.2006 11:57 >>>
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> What a pity to have missed the discussion about museum-users as
> participants. Thank you Ian for sharing your blog from 1998. In the
> meantime, what are your experiences with projects on visitor
> participation in content creation?
>
> In the context of an exhibition on how an encylopaedia is produced I
> am thinking of a part with a selection of curiosity-cabinet-like
> objects that visitors can use to build exhibition. By arranging,
> contextualizing and categorizing objects, knowledge construction is
> shown as an open-ended and social process. Does anyone know of any
> similar approaches and corresponding experiences?
>
> The curator's objection is that people likely to visit an exhibition
> on encyclopaedias in the national library would'nt want to play with
> objects.
>
> Any thoughts about this?
>
> Thank you and best,
>
> Hanna Sathiapal
>
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> Am 10.11.2006 um 00:47 schrieb Ian Russell:
>
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>> At 19:12 09/11/2006, Nina Simon wrote:
>>
>>> Dear museum smarties,
>>>
>>> Like many of you, I was energized, inspired, simultaneously over-  
>>> and
>>> under-whelmed by ASTC this year.  I was particularly motivated by
>>> some
>>> discussions about ways to more meaningfully bring visitors into the
>>> museum as users--active participants in content creation.
>>>
>>> So, I've started a blog, Museum 2.0 (http://
>>> www.museumtwo.blogspot.com),
>>> to explore some of these ideas.  The web is amazing for its
>>> ability to
>>> evolve and adapt, and web 2.0 applications give users high-value,
>>> personalized content based on their social participation in them.
>>> Why
>>> can't museums do the same?  Can this model of visitor/user  
>>> engagement
>>> work in our halls and programs?  How far can/will/should we go?
>>
>> I've just had a strange experience!
>>
>> Reading Nina Simon's message, I recalled chairing an online
>> discussion about the same great question, back in 1998 as an
>> official, 'virtual' part of that year's Museums and the Web
>> conference in Toronto http://www.archimuse.com/mw98/abstracts/
>> russell.html under the title, 'Symmetrical Transactions'.
>>
>> I searched Google to see if any vestiges of that discussion still
>> remained in cyberspace. I discovered that it's all still there,
>> fossilised in a long-forgotten, unlinked corner of my OWN website.
>> http://www.interactives.co.uk/graffiti/
>>
>> It felt peculiar to read again through this stimulating discussion
>> lasting less than a month over eight years ago.
>>
>>
>> [log in to unmask] * http://www.interactives.co.uk
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>> Give people facts and you feed their minds for an hour.
>> Awaken curiosity and they feed their own minds for a lifetime.
>> *
>> Ian Russell
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