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Ed --

 

All visitors are not engaged by the same things. If I'm approached by floor people, I excuse my self. A second time and I leave. 

 

Not everyone is like me, but challenging or engaging people is not a universal answer. There are visitors, like me, who want to be challenged or engaged by the exhibits. 

 

We must all walk a delicate balance as we try to serve our audiences.

 

Charlie

 

Charles Stout, Ph.D.

Media Arts Manager

Ann Arbor Hands-On Museum 

220 East Ann Street 

Ann Arbor, MI 48104 

734.995.5439 

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	-----Original Message----- 

	From: Ed Sobey [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 

	Sent: Mon 8/22/2005 4:59 PM 

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	Subject: Re: question and some new discussion

	

	



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	Bill-

	

	Getting visitors engaged is the first critical step.  Walking through an

	exhibit hall is so often like walking with zombies - few are engaged in

	anything.  They push the buttons and say "That looks nice," and move on.  I

	suggest engaging people with a challenge ("Can you ...." ) sometimes

	followed by a record of what/how others did to meet that challenge.  This

	can be amazingly effective and infectious.

	

	Floor people engage visitors.  Explainers don't, but "engagers" do.  The

	goal is to supply questions and opportunities and not to supply so many

	answers (answers leading to the end of discussion).

	

	You touch on the real problem - as you say not ID/EV - but people's basic

	understanding of what science is and how it works.  To do science, people

	must have questions (generated through the engagement process), run

	experiments (how many museums really have people doing experiments?), and

	making observations...  I'm amazed that few people (museum visitors, staff,

	professional teachers) can watch a car roll down a ramp and report what

	happened.  They just can't do it.  (After a few pointed questions they can

	do it, but its' tough to get them to observe and report). If you can't

	observe and report, you can't do science.  This is what should be going on

	in science centers - "Science"  - the action verb.  It is what we need.

	

	After engaging people to do something and getting them observe (accurately)

	and report, they must be able to ascribe some causes to the effects they

	observed.  Few can do this.  ("God made it go that way," "I'm not good at

	science," are typical responses from kids when asked by their car, boat, or

	rocket veered to one side).

	

	Kids (and adults) don't get the change to do science (the verb) in school or

	science centers.  Everything is presented to them rather than trying to

	engage them in the process.  The process is key, not the facts.  I think the

	industry agrees on the importance of the process, but look at the exhibits

	and programs being promoted and, to paraphrase Wendy's from years ago,

	"Where's the science?"  It's not there.

	

	Criteria - the ability to engage in open ended, hands-on investigation of

	what the visitor (not just the curator) finds interesting.  In other words,

	let them do science.

	

	                                                Ed

	

	Ed Sobey, Ph.D.

	Northwest Invention Center

	www.invention-center.com

	(425) 861-8685

	

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	[mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> ]On Behalf Of Bill Schmitt

	Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 11:01 AM

	To: [log in to unmask]

	Subject: Re: question and some new discussion

	

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	With all the talk about EV / ID - we have periodically motioned the bigger

	issue which is building the ability to think scientifically and achieve that

	great feeling of really understanding something.  In that case it may not

	matter what the content is other than it involves good communication with

	nature.  Thus I have long suspected that any good science investigation

	contributes to lifelong science literacy and - and on the other side for

	example - a bad physics learning experience that does not generate quality

	cognitive engagement and personal understanding can be a significant

	contributor to science illiteracy that can actually foster people who are

	the problem when it comes to EV /ID and any other science understanding.

	

	So my questions are:  What are some specific criteria for any exhibit that

	seem to have the power to change a good exhibit into a great self learning

	science experience for a visitor?  Perhaps the visitor walks away thinking

	"Wow, I finally feel that I have the power to think in a way that I

	understand more and it really made me feel good."   What are some specific

	examples of these criteria in action?  What did you try that seemed great

	for learning at the time - but that you would never do again?  What is the

	balance between content and supporting personal reasoning to get it?  How

	many of your exhibits have these criteria?

	

	One example of a project we were doing is an astronomy program for teachers

	in which we were exploring the Moon and then predicting phases etc.  In

	order to help teachers understand the revolution and rotation of the Moon we

	modified a great demonstration that we have seen in many places.  It

	provided a very good explanation and was demonstrated in many ways including

	using a model in which a teacher played the part of the Moon and rotated and

	revolved around the instructor as the Earth.  Teachers drew models to

	explain the concept.  We (and the teachers) asked questions that pushed to

	make certain we all understood the concepts.   THEN --- The next day we

	presented a simple problem in which the teachers needed to apply the

	concepts.   Guess what?  - The entire class had a major struggle with many

	teachers totally unable to apply what they "did not" learn the day before.

	BUT - the first teacher who broke through with reasonable ideas was the

	teacher who played the part of the Moon in the previous demonstration - and

	she had a great big audible "Ah-Ha" as Dave Taylor would have said.   Now

	this is not new news - but the big issue here is: What criteria should we

	apply to change the outcome of the investigation?  I do not believe that a

	better and more eloquent explanation from the teacher would have helped. The

	follow up activity seemed to help but we were not able to test this.   What

	are the criteria for getting cognitive engagement at it's highest level in

	science centers?

	

	One of the most interesting postings that still has me thinking was from

	some time ago by Ian Russell that discussed explanatory and exploratory

	behavior.  What are the essential criteria for getting the exploratory

	behavior?

	

	Bill Schmitt

	

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	[mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> ]On Behalf Of Barbara Punt

	Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 9:04 PM

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	While I applaud all the interesting discussion on evolution and intelligent

	design, it seems that nobody writes about anything else anymore.  I used to

	look forward to getting interesting commentary on a variety of subjects.

	Does anyone else feel this way, or am I just being a wet blanket here?

	

	

	

	Barbara

	

	

	

	When in doubt...Punt!

	

	

	

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