I have done this. I want the moms to come in (our consults are free at this time - any # of visits) but often they do not want to come in or they cannot get in. I describe in detail over the phone. The important points are UNWRAP the baby - most of them are still mimicking the swaddled, bundled baby they have presented to them in hosp (ARRRGGGHHH). I remind them we are in New Orleans and it is hardly ever cold here, even in Dec/Jan. :) GET NAKED - mom from waist up and baby from waist up Describe the WIDE OPEN mouth Pull the baby in CLOSE and don't be afraid to smush the nose at this point. And I like the cumberbund analogy of wrapping the baby around you. Most of these moms do get it and things improve dramatically and the pees and poos start too. Granted, this is not the ideal, but it can be done when absolutely necessary. Laurie Wheeler, RN, MN, IBCLC Violet Louisiana, s.e. USA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html