What a good point Jeanette and another good reason to speak at schools and youth events about normal birth, need meeting parenting and occupations that support the like such as family first LLL, IBCLC, Midwifery, Family practice medicine, Nursing, Childbirth Education, Doula, Scientific researcher and ...... and ...... Lisa Boisvert-Mackenzie, Mom, Midwife, CCE, Breastfeeding Enthusiast Pohnpei, East Caroline Islands, Micronesia [log in to unmask] --------------------- JPanchula wrote: Every time I have a chance, I speak of the unique needs of babies, of the Kangaroo-ness of their needs, of their ability to grow up independent if just allowed to develop according to their needs, etc... I find that this needs to be addressed even before I talk about what is a breast and a nipple and how to get the two (breastfeeding Vs nipple feeding) and the baby together!