To: Jeanne Hagreen: Among all the other suggestions, think, too, of good old "dancer's hand" technique, which has been round a long time. With other tricks of the trade, it may sometimes be what makes the last little bit of difference. I used this to encourage my baby to attach and stay on when I relactated with her in early-1965 (yes, she's now 33). Other times I have used it include with a Mum and baby where the baby had lost his breastfeeding skills through *faulty* cup-feeding. What is now called "dancer's hand" has been round for decades. In my current research for my thesis, I have a mother and some nurses who have used what appears to be the same technique, then unnamed, as long ago as the 1940s. This is in Queensland. Sometimes, having a lot of "tricks" to draw on will help find the combination of techniques which work for that particular Mum. I hope you and your client have made progress. Good luck! Regards, Virginia Thorley Lactation consultant, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com