Funny, many of us are lucky some of these situations did not arise with our first babies. My first was easy, painless bf experience. My second was horrible sore, scabbe, bleeding nipples for at least 6 wks. Forceps assisted births for both, carpal tunnel syndrome to the extreme with the second, very difficult to hold and position. Also a labor induction. How could we NOT have problems? Baby very sleepy, having seizure-like movements, workup negative. I was an LC too, had another LC visit several times to help, latch seems fine, etc. Wt. gain fabulous, but felt like she was biting often. Later at a toddler dental visit, the dentist notes that she has very tight labial frenulum, which may cause problems in future (separating front teeth). I remembered then how I would sometimes have to roll her upper lip out with a cotton-tipped applicator (Q-tip). Multifactorial???? This is an understatement! However, we are still nursing at 42 months - wow that sounds long when you say it like that! Laurie Wheeler, RN, MN, IBCLC Louisiana Breastfeeding MediaWatch Violet Louisiana USA _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]