I agree with Alicia that a narrow scissors hold is the problematic one as it limits the amount of breast available for the baby to attach to. Also a narrow grip on the breast is likely to push the milk sinuses back away from the nipple, and prevent the baby from latching onto them, whereas lifting a bit from underneathe the breast, whether done with one finger or 4, seems to push the glandular tissue forward, into the teat. Check it out on yourselves... -- Catherine Watson Genna, IBCLC NYC mailto:[log in to unmask]