Diane - get some of those balloons [M.... has em] that look like breasts (or just pink balloons if you can't find the others). Put a pump onto them that does not auto release like the biggies do. Let the pump suck. When you see the balloon get sucked and sucked and sucked you want to scream! Tell them that can happen to a Mom of she misreads the instructions (as we recently hears here on Lactnet). Also find a few really bad drug store pumps. I have a nice little collection that includes a bicycle horn pump (ask them how they would keep it clean), nasty cylinder pump where the cylinder dips in and out of the milk, etx. etc. Show 'em who makes the other pumps (formula cos etc.) and ask how much success the manufacturers are really hoping for. Then get out your nice quiet double suctioning hi tech hospital grade pump, run it, cite whatever FDA regulations it passed and its pressure readings (even if they understand nothing, docs will love it, no?) and wow em. You could also ask whether they think dairy farmers would use the bicycle horn pump or the electric model for maximum efficiency and productivity... Anne Merewood