I'm very happy to have found this group and although quite overwhelmed by the volume of info I finally take time to introduce myself/ I am a pediatrician in Paris and worked as a trainer for LLL france about 10 years ago and then trained and worked as a consultant for wellstart. I helped create the European society for the support of breastfeeding (SESAM) about 4 years ago and we are running conferences on BFIN Europe, articles in the professionnal and lay press as well as running BF management training courses in maternity hospitals throughout france. I am very impressed by the vast amount of knowledge you all have. And I do find it hard to read all the mail we get. A few comments about some ideas that struck me: Newborn on phenobarbital: You know that baby was on phenobarb throughout pregnancy so getting a bit more postnatally won't affect him especially with such a low level, as a matter of fact BF allows for a more gradual weaning which is ideal rather than having the withdrawal symptoms. About the Peter hartmann studies why is it that one can assume that increases in breast volumes are assumed to be milk volumes? I don't think one can make this assumption in the first few weeks post partum. Indeed a lot of the so called primary engorgement of day 3 is usually felt to be mostly redistribution of extravascular and extra cellular fluids from placenta and adnexa to the breast.I still do not believe that breasts can be storage tanks because there is no sphincter on the end of milk ducts as there is in every reservoir of fluid in the human body. About milk reduction: it is felt here that the best remedy(often unknowingly taken) to decrease milk production is parsley. Pulsatilla (sorry I do not know the english name for this flower)mother tincture 150 drops for one or 2 days is also used. About pleasure during breastfeeding : 2pleasure hormones are circulating in breastfeeding mothers' blood: oxytocin and endorphins. Although oxytocin is also generated during orgasm it is of special value as the strongest hormone to induce mothering behavior when injected into animals(I learned from my friend mary Kroeger from wellstart who is on this net as well (is it in Hawai no less). So just because ocytocin is secreted should not be confused to mean it is a sexual pleasure, but only a sensual pleasure with that one common hormone. pierre PIERRE BITOUN 70 RUE NOTRE DAME DE NAZARETH 75003 PARIS TEL/FAX +331 4274-5662 email: [log in to unmask]