Lucy, I found this hesitancy also in connection to dads' presence. At our night time LLL meetings we used to invite dads, but several of the mothers complained that they felt hesitant to either bf in front of the men or to discuss intimate details or questions. Our attendance grew when we limited meetings to mothers. But this *is* for mother-to-mother support in addition to education so... I do think it is important to include dads in the educational process . They are the moms main support at home and many moms will give up before calling LLL or an LC if Dad says to. Convince him and you've won more than half the battle. Maybe some ice breakers at the beginning would loosen everyone up a bit so the discussion would be more open and less embarrassing for those moms and dads. Something fun so everybody feels lightened up a bit. Lisa