I like the idea of Seattle area Lactnetters getting together, perhaps could even persuade you to join the local coalition. Anyway, anyone interested can e-mail me privately. Also, we are forming a study group for those interested in taking the IBCLC exam this coming July. How about using ABM for housing construction, I bet it would make great foundation, as it sits in most babies gutts like cement. I'm sorry Patricia, I'm allergic to cow's milk products, so I know what it's like, it's just that ABM is complete garbage and I'll never feel differently. I saw one to many babies malnourished while living in Peru to ever have anything but disgust for the stuff. I'd never eat a pancake made from the stuff...YUK!!!! IMOHO lovingly, Nina J. Lanphear CLE,LSP [log in to unmask]