I'm very saddened to read that some people have interpreted the criticism of the Ezzo's "Growing Families International"/"Babywise" curriculum as being criticism of Christianity. I don't *think* (not positive) that the Ezzo's are associated with any particular Christian denomination. I know their curriculum has been purchased for use in adult ed classes at a variety of churches in various places (locally it was the First Baptist Church). Often times, the pastors, and people outside the classes, have no idea what curriculum is being used. When our local Baptist pastor was told what was happening at his church, he expressed surprise and dismay (presumably sincere) and claimed he was unaware of what the Ezzo's had to say about breastfeeding. His own wife nursed their child on demand, and understood that scheduled feeding can interfere with milk supply and growth in the baby. So it doesn't seem to be any one denomination, or "type" of Christian church (fundamentalist, or whatever) that finds out about and uses this curriculum. The church in Canada where it is being used (discussed recently on LactNet) was some sort of independent church, as I recall (meaning not one of the standard denominations). I think we can all realize that this philosophy of childrearing/breastfeeding is (1) not based in the teachings of Christ and (2) not common to all Christians. On a related (sort of) topic, are any of you LactNetters familiar with "How to Really Love Your Kids"? It's a wonderful book I read at least once a year, part of our local LLL library, from a Christian perspective. If I had tons of money I would send a copy to everyone who promotes the Ezzo's method of child rearing. Aside from the breastfeeding to mother's schedule, they also recommend starting physical discipline with a spoon (applied to baby's rear) at 4 months of age, working up to hitting with a belt for older children, when they misbehave. Gives me the willies just to think about how these kids will turn out as adults. Kathy D.