I would like to get a copy of Tom Hale's book that you all refer to with such enthusiasm - what is the title? And, are there any other "listserv" groups that anyone knows of on topics like childbirth education, parenting, etc. BTW, I am the mother of a 13 year old multiply impaired son who, among other things, has facial paralysis and could not suck. I cup fed him EBM, even when that was not the "thing to do" - 13 years ago. If anyone has clients of special needs kids - I would be happy to communicate with them - sometimes knowing someone else has "survived" this difficult start is helpful!! Dianne Kemp RN, IBCLC, CCE Port Huron, Michigan