Susan, I'm going to sidestep your "normalcy" question for a moment and ask another question: have you tried cabbage leaf compresses on her at night? A second alternative would be sage tea or tablets, though there is a little more controversy involved there. Also-- you mentioned a "detailed schedule on curtailing pumping"; is she still pumping on top of nursing? -Lisa ************************************************* Lisa Marasco, BA, LLLL, IBCLC [log in to unmask] / [log in to unmask] *************************************************