Thank you, Jan, for the calm voice of reason regarding listeriosis. I have been judiciously suggesting cabbage compresses with good result and would hate to lose that avenue. It seems to me that when I was growing up in Hong Kong (parents were missionaries) my mother soaked all vegetables in a 10% bleach solution, then rinsed. Would this kill the contamination? Would this suggestion be acceptable in places where contamination is likely? Personally, I hesitate to pile any more instructions than necessary on a mom who is already stressed with engorgement, so I doubt I will use my own suggestion, but I did want to throw the solution "out there." Jeanne