Dear Anne, I have a slightly different attitude about LLLmeetings....and bf classes. I have been to both, taught/led both, and I feel that many problems that bf women expereience could have been prevented by prior exposure of parents to bf. Most women who are fried, frustrated, exhausted, and fed up are women who have had no exposure to bf, mothering, etc...and who are shocked and horrified by what mothering and bf is really about...by the intensity of the commitment. By attending a LLL meeting, mothers to be can SEE babies, SEE mothers nurse babies, and can see how's it done... This beats a bf class, in my opinion,...seeing is believing.... My humble opinion.... KB PS About the universal precautions and lc consults, visits, etc...I still stand my ground...If I touch breastmilk (and I find this hard NOT to do during consults...), I wear gloves. I dont see how this sends the message to a mother that bf is "dirty".... I have a friend who when she does her suck assessment....turns to the parents (if they have a good sense of humor...) and says "safe suck"....They all laugh, and the moment is diffused. Again, my humble opinion. KB ********************************************************************* Kathleen B. Bruce RN, BSN, IBCLC (email = [log in to unmask]) "Personally I am always ready to learn, although I do not always like being taught." Winston Churchill **********************************************************************