Patricia: Good suggestion about non-homogenized milk, but no, these moms are urban ladies who have always gotten their milk in bags or in cartons from the store. When a mom goes on about her thin-looking milk, I usually counter with something like: "Have you ever tasted your milk? I tasted mine, and it sure didn't taste like cow's milk. I love milk, always have, but I NOW would have to be forced to drink a cup of breastmilk. I figure that if our milk tastes so different, it's liable to look different, too". I live in Beer Sheva, Israel, and most of my moms are native-born Israelis from Middle-Eastern backgrounds. Lately, I do have a number of recent immigrants from the former Soviet Union, a completely different kettle of fish, and there are always former Americans or English, always less of a challenge for me personally. I also find "easier" the native-born Israelis from a European background. A real melting pot. Judy Knopf