I have so much trouble with the circ'd boys. Our circ rate must be higher than 95%, since I've rarely known parents not to circ. I have been counting hours between birth and circumcision and often find under 12 hours (7 hours from birth to circ not uncommon, and not the shortest, either). Even waiting until day 2 doesn't help, because frequently the baby has received so much formula by my first visit in the a.m. of day 1, that it takes most of the day for the baby to wake up and get some good nursings in, and then he spends the night before day 2 in the nursery (usually) (getting bottles, usually), and is fasted before he's circ'd, in either case, and then he's circ'd and there we are again, back to sleep. (I know you will identify several problems I am dealing with besides circumcisions in the above paragraph.) It's not a soapbox to complain about the circ problem. It's just saying what needs to be said, so we can do something to address the problem. Arly in Utah [log in to unmask] (Arly Helm, LC)