Jan, I have not seen this baby. They never did come for a pump either, which means that they may not be bf at all..I think they were using a Haberman. Kathleen, who is glad SOMEONE sees and obeys.. : ) >Kathleen, > >Ugh. How far back does the hard palate extend? Enough for a short Haberman? > How are they feeding the baby at all? NG Tube? > >Jan > >([log in to unmask]) (See, I read your notes & take heed...) > > ********************************************************** Kathleen B. Bruce RN, BSN, IBCLC Williston, Vermont USA [log in to unmask] To err is human, to really screw up you need a computer...*wink* **********************************************************************