Dear Lactnet Friends: In the beginning, when infants can be transferring half a cc of thick newborn milk, and it can be virtually impossible to hear swallowing in the first few days, how can anyone tell what kind of suckling a newborn is doing. Who are we to judge? Being at breast relieves pain; newborns can be sore after being born, particularly if they've been pulled out with forceps or a vacuum. One of the ways that folks get mislead about newborn behavior at breast is that breastfeeding helpers have been teaching folks since the 20th century that newborns should feed "8 or more in 24", in part, because we felt that if we told new mothers the truth, that a baby weaning from placental continual feeds is more likely to be at breast 12-20 times in 24 hours, that women wouldn't breastfeed at all. warmly, Nikki Lee RN, BSN, Mother of 2, MS, IBCLC, CCE, CIMI, ANLC, CKC Reviews Editor,* Clinical Lactation* www.nikkileehealth.com https://www.facebook.com/nikkileehealth *Communications are confidential and meant only for whom they are addressed.* *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome