Kristen writes: Then Betty just started talking, she drew on the board and used home made props she had brought and delivered the material without the videos. ~~~ Hello all, Oh wow I remember that mouth prop she made, with the different strings under the tongue representing different tie locations...:) It's not easy when local healthcare providers don't support moms with evaluating or treating all but the most anterior of ties (while we also have local IBCLCs who do not believe they make any functional difference or can be safely treated either.) Still, our role is to give the best information available and provide support. I do keep a short list of moms that I've worked with in mind who are willing to talk mom to mom with a new mom considering something they may need extra support with in their decision-making like posterior tongue tie release and/or bodywork. Sometimes it makes a difference, other times moms continued to insist that CST is too risky because babies "have been killed by it," or that a posterior tie release will lead to "the baby bleeding out or choking during sleep." No one could help these moms understand anything differently. Still, when we strongly suspect that we have offered the most up-to-date, thorough assessment, watched with experienced eyes and minds what happens at feedings and over time, done all we could do, shared the best studies and clinical perspectives, and provided support, then we are done. Peace, Judy Judy LeVan Fram, PT, IBCLC, LLLL Brooklyn, NY, USA [log in to unmask] *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome