Magic trick? Other than turn time backward, so mom can heed the help of IBCLCs when it was offered way-back-when? (Ducking, now, from those of you throwing things at me.) I'd advise this mother to increase the number of times she pumps per day (5 times a day is pushing the envelope even when supply is adequate ....). Make sure she is doing it around the clock ... and not taking too long of a no-pump-break at night/when sleeping. Add lots of breast massage before-and-during each pump session, with hand-expression immediately afterwards (a la Jane Morton's hand-on-pumping technique). Skin to skin for most of those 10-12 hours she is at the NICU. Have a day or two of "power pumping" to change things up a bit. Praise praise praise from the staff and IBCLCs. -- Liz Brooks JD IBCLC FILCA Wyndmoor, PA, USA *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome