Today there have been some interesting posts with cases where more "medical" knowledge was sought. Also the babies were in the very early days of life. I think we can see the value of the education we need as discussed re new iblce requirements. Not to say at all that LCs should also be RNs, but quite a bit of the education of an RN (or better yet a midwife) is quite applicable and valuable to the LC. I guess I'm a bit defensive, since it seems the RN/LC is much maligned on lactnet at times. Also the hospital-based LC (sometimes incorrectly thought of as not knowing much about any other period of life outside of the newborn period) would likely be very familiar with these types of cases (baby febrile, ill and mother too and a lethargic baby with >10% wt loss). I have been meaning to add to the recent discussions: RNs, at least of my generation and baccalaureate level prepared, definitely were educated using a holistic, family-centered approach. It was emphasized what a difference the nursing model was compared to the medical model of care. We had quite a bit of training in counseling, active listening, body language, as well. All quite valuable to any one in healthcare. Laurie Wheeler RN MN IBCLC Mississippi USA *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome