Heather, you said a neo supports bf thus: "We tell them their baby really needs their breastmilk, and that anything other than breastmilk is likely to make the baby sicker'. I see this done also by the transport team, and I'm told the neo requests ebm too, at the hospital where we transport most of our sick babies. Very rarely does a mother refuse. It has to come from all staff: the LCs, the nurses, the doctors. I'm sad to say that only myself and my partner and a handful of nurses believe and support this and kangaroo care and the like. Many nurses and doctors believe in separating mother and baby too much, and like using premie formulas over ebm. If I say something very strongly re ebm or bf, really giving mom no 'choice', I will get into an altercation with someone much more powerful than me. Sad to say if I want to get anywhere with what I'm trying to promote, I have to word things carefully. laurie wheeler rn mn ibclc mississippi usa *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome