I hope I didn't mess up the interpretation of The Code by paraphrasing. I really think a simple algorithm like I have mentioned would really help professionals better discern what is and what is not addressed by The Code. Michelle H. Kinne BA IBCLC RLC ICCE CD(DONA) CLE ------------Thank you Michelle :-) What bothers me (yesssssssssssss I keep on nagging about it :-)))))) is the next step. Medela is a code-violator, just as Avent is. If an organisation (whatever type, varying from bf-orgs to magazines to hospitals) has in their bylaws (or whatever these statement are called) that they live their life and do the things they do "WHO-code-compliant", is it no problem then to accept adverts/money etc. from companies who are code-violators, even if they advert/money doesn't directly promote ABM, bottles, teats? I suspect thát part of the discussion belongs on the plate of IBFAN, doesn't it? It is the "no financial liaisons"- thing, right? I have sooooooo much (personal!) trouble with te lovey-dovey-baby-mother adverts on pumps, from Avent and Medela, in magazines which claim to be "code-compliant". I knów, oh yés I do know pumps are not "under" the code. But boy, do these adverts annoy me, irritate me. And taking it one step further: even if the products in the adverts are not "under" the code, I feel a sort of ethical resistance by putting adverts in magazins who claim to be "code-compliant". This is where the bigger picture comes in for me: HA! In the Netherlands we (Medela and Avent) are clearly present in code-compliant magazines, taraaaaaaa, we are very good companies, we are endorsed by Important Dutch Magazines. You understand what I mean? I'll throw in Yoda one more time. As my motto in my work :-)) Lydia, LLL, Netherlands Don't try, do. Or do not. There is no try. ~ Yoda *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome