Sima, I was wondering if you assessed the babies suck with your gloved finger? When moms describe to me the "biting" pain, I have often found with my digital exam of his suck, that he is "chomping" versus "sucking". Its not an easy fix. I explain how the tongue is supposed to be massaging the nipple (or my finger), moving it in and out of his mouth. Instead, he is just compressing and releasing. The moms who have a great supply and are practically leaking in the babies mouth, have babies that can sometimes manage to eat just enough, but it will usually affect their supply down the road. I usually send them home doing some "tug of war" exercises - with their finger, or a paci, or a bottle nipple. (no flames please) If they aren't gaining well, supplementation may be needed to help teach the baby how to use his tongue correctly and thus improve the transfer of milk from the breast. This usually involves a demonstration on paced bottle feeding along with the tug of war (which is just gentle counter pressure to teach the baby to keep a grasp of the nipple), so that we don't jeopardize the breastfeeding relationship! If improvement doesn't occur within a few days, I usually recommend cranial sacral therapy. I've had good results with both. Linda Hill RN, IBCLC Austin,TX NOT enjoying the 3rd week of 103-106 degree weather! *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome