In a message dated 3/4/2009 8:22:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I relate the study with the baby's from the orphanage that were fed formula in two groups: one with a wire caretaker and no interaction/touch and the other with a human caretaker and how the ones that were not touched had failure to thrive in even died, while the other group grew well. I might have a bad memory, but this seems like a conflation of two studies: 1. Harry Harlow's monkeys where they had a wire mom with a bottle and monkey formula, and a cloth mom without, and the monkey babes would clutch the cloth mom as much as possible and only go to the wire mom when they were flat out hungry, then back to the cloth one again for touch comfort, and 2. the Eastern European orphanage where they realized that the babies closest to the door, who got little hellos or whatever as staff walked by in addition to their bottles, were surviving better than the ones away from the door at the other end, who got formula but minimal/no interaction. Comments? Peace, Judy Judy LeVan Fram, PT, IBCLC, LLLL Brooklyn, NY, USA **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome