What about doing some suckle training ala article in JHL 2002 Dee Kassing. -----Original Message----- From: Lactation Information and Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of S C Pace Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:05 AM Subject: Sub optimal latch Hi I have already posted this request but there was no response, please does anyone have any ideas. Hi everyone any ides to help this situation. Permission to post Baby boy-frst baby, term, spontaneous labour, spontaneous birth, no analgesia, physiological 3rd stage, skin 2 skin for 90 minutes plus, first BF at 15 mins-assisted by midwife to facilitate 3rd stage. Now 5 weeks and 6 days, BW=3460 gms now weighs 4600gms, feeds 8-12 times per day, wet nappies 4-6 heavy per day, mustard stools one large at least once per day, sleeping 5-6 hours overnight. Mum has 3mm diameter hole punch lacerations dead centre of nipple-and nipple thrush. Baby had oral symptoms now resolving with Nystat. Mum's symptoms are also resolving with Nystat and supportive measures. Nipple damage has been fairly constant in last 3 weeks. I suspect this baby has learnt to feed well enough for his own needs but to the detriment of his mother's nipples. Question how do we educate him to latch better. *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome