We have discussed lots of issues concerning pumping & bof vs. feeding directly @ the breast. However, either I am not receiving all the posts or we have NOT discussed information from Brian Palmer, DDS. He believes that NOTHING should be in that babe's mouth other than the mom's breast. No paci's, no teats, no fingers. He talks about pulling skulls from the Smithsonian and only after the advent of the bottle did he find mal-occlusions and significant decay. He even blames Sleep Apnea on BOF and to prove his point shows a picture of his brother in ICU on a vent! So, if I am talking to a mom that has decided to pump & bof (I do not force her and I don't believe that I am rude,) but after I talk about the extra time involved, the extra work that will probably decrease the length of BRF I also tell her about Dr. Palmer's theories. Respectfully, Royce What you permit, you promote Royce Anderson RN, IBCLC, RLC, CD (DONA) *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html Mail all commands to [log in to unmask] To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or [log in to unmask]) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet or ([log in to unmask]) To reach list owners: [log in to unmask]