In a message dated 9/12/2006 12:01:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: A mom who REALLY wants to succeed with breastfeeding this time (her first baby received breast milk from a bottle for MONTHS due to refusing to breastfeed) had a baby with problems with respirations, (2.5 weeks early???) on CPAP, etc. She has requested that the nurses not use bottles - tube feeding when she is not there to breastfeed (night feeding). However, they won't release the baby to mom until she can take in all her calories orally - so the nurses are pushing her to accept the use of bottles "so you can take her home" I'm sure she'll agree to the bottles - in the hopes things can be "fixed" once she gets home. I can't really blame her! Mom has been told the baby must be kept on a q 3 hour feeding schedule with feedings that should last no more than 15 minutes. We are told to consider oral feeding with a bottle as "normal" feeding - and breastfeeding as "extra" and "more difficult" and "exhausting for the baby." What is a mother to do? Jeanette Panchula, BSW, RN, PHN, IBCLC Jeanette's post brings up some very interesting points and I have not seen really any comments back regarding her questions. I had some discussions with nurses at a Level II nursery I work at. The nurses still use the red premie nipples because they feel a firmer, slower nipple would be too difficult for these babies to obtain the intake they need. They know that babies tend to desaturate their oxygen levels when bottle feeding but take this as the "norm" and feel babies will eventually work through this. They also feel that with babies on monitors and mostly fed by the staff Vs the mother, they can keep a better eye on handling the desaturation drops in oxygen. I have sited Wolf and Glass's work that preemies should not have a faster pace and that some babies out of desperation basically hold their breath when feeding and then make up with bursts of rapid breathing. I have not made any inroads in this discussion. Another issue in these nurseries is the need to have babies fed larger amounts and therefore less frequently. There are many a premie babies who gets moved to every 4 hour feeds. I am also dealing with most of the babies getting calories added to their mother's breast milk to speed up the weight gains. This means limiting how often the babies can breastfeed. I have pointed out that 4 hour feeds is not a norm for babies and have been trying to encourage breastfeeding ad lib when babies are looking to suck. Almost all the babies in our Level II nursery that are preemies end up with reflux. Last night I had a debate with a nurse who told a mother of a 34 weeker, who's NG tube was just pulled that bottle feeding would be easier and if the mother tried to breastfeed the baby would get too exhausted and than the NG tube would have to be replaced. I pulled the nurse aside and informed her that if the baby was truly ready for oral feeds that breastfeeding would be good for the baby and not too taxing. I also pointed out that this should be the mother's decision. I am looking for comments, sites to articles and help to how to approach the issues I have observed. Especially, can people respond to the need for preemies to take larger volumes and less frequent feeds Vs smaller volumes more frequently. Thanks, Ann Perry, RN IBCLC Boston, MA *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html