Poor latch, Please correct me if I am wrong but doesn't piticon contain Thimerisol which is ethel mecury- a nurotoxin. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 02:03:19 -0400 From: =?windows-1255?Q?Yael_Edelstein?= <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Poor latch (long) Dear LACTNET list memebers, I have been reading the list for about a yer but this is my first post. I have been a breastfeeding counselor on and off for many years; my=20 original accredation is ICEC.=20 Before I start, I want to say that this list is fantastic. I have a client who has me stumped. I have refered them to a lactation=20= consultant but they are reluctant to go, I'm not sure why. The baby, first baby, was born full term. His mother started labor=20 spontaneously, but progression was slow so they gave her pitocin. She had= =20 an epidural and, at the end, the baby was delivered by vacuum.=20 She didn't manage to nurse him right away, although she tried, and=20 throughout the entire hospital stay the baby didn't nurse at all. They we= re=20 unable to hook up with the hospital's lactation consultant,for whatever=20= reason. I first saw the baby at three days old. He is lively and alert. After=20 looking in his mouth I thought, perhaps, his tounge was a bit short but I= =20 am leery of making snap diagnosis. If he has tounge tie, it is not obviou= s. The mother has flattish nipples but I've seen much worse. Her breasts wer= e=20 full, but not yet engorged. She is calm, relaxed, and determined. We snuggled the baby up in classic nursing position,he nuzzled, opened=20= lovely and wide and seemed to latch, just for a moment. Then he stopped a= nd=20 that was that. He was happy to sit at the breast with his mouth open. We=20= sat until he was ready to try again. Same story. This went on for an hour= . Everthing looks perfect but baby can't seem to latch. We tried other positions and again, no latch. As it was getting late and=20= the mother was very tired,we called it quits. They were happy to spoonfee= d=20 him formula as pumping was not working yet. The next day we tried for two hours. Again the atmosphere was calm. Still= =20 no latch. The baby has a strong suck; finger feeding and bottlefeeding are no=20 problem, but he can't seem to make a leakproof seal in order to pull the=20= breast into place. He can't make a leakproof seal on the loose skin on th= e=20 side of my lower arm either, if you know what I mean. When he sucks on a finger his tongue slips back and forth. With a little=20= encouragement he can bring it forward. This seems like a tounge problem to me but I feel out of my depth.=20 Help? Thank you, Yael Edelstein Jerusalem, Israel *********************************************** *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html