Dear all: I think one of the hardest things to determine is when to use our hands and when not to use our hands. Using our hands is such a right brain activity and mothers are relying more on right brain activity than left brain activity. Talking someone through a latch with all the intellectual descriptions of why it is important is so much more left brain. Sometimes it seems that the only way to get the information across is just to show it and have a woman feel it rather than think it. On the other hand, I had such a difficult nonlatching, kvetchy, short fused baby today who demonstrated so clearly that she really just wanted to be in control of the situation. All the devices and interventions, - the correct neck extended nose to nipple positioning with a nipple tilt, the nipple shield, the tube, the tight breast sandwich just made her mad. What made her happy was being stripped down to her diaper, left alone on mom's chest to bob her own way to the breast and self attach. After 10 days of barely latching and definitely not swallowing, she got on and swallowed beautifully in a Rebecca Glover style dangerously dangling cradle hold. Even pushing her to the breast on her back was enough to set her off. The poor thing had vomited up huge quantities of blood right after birth and although the mother had no recollection of her having been deep suctioned, I suspect that might have happened at some point. She certainly showed us what she really needed. Best regards, Susan Burger *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html