We are also a Lamaze approved site and have never had any restrictions put on us as to what we can and cannot teach. We even have doctors who are happy to go along with what their patients want (for the most part).Our of all of our 9 OB's and 5 CNM's we only have ONE doc who more routinely than not will cut an epis (but if you keep her out of the room till the bitter end she doesn't do it because she doesn't have time). However, things do not always go as they should and there will always be times that the rules change, so to speak. People will get pushed into inductions,etc., no matter what they were thinking. I am not going over that again. However, regarding inductions, there are times when the doctor is pushed into scheduling an induction because the patient wants it. You guys who don't work in hospitals need to understand that we educators do NOT have control over everything. My point is that not all people want the natural, Lamaze based pregnancy and childbirth that we all espouse. Do those of us who work with childbearing women know that the more matural the better? Of course we do and our docs do as well, but that doesn't always happen. Despite what we teach, people are often going to go the route they choose. Maybe theri plan changes. It is not always the fault of the medical community. It is often consumer driven as well. That not only goes for childbirth, but breastfeedinf plans as well. Again, I am going to say that all we can do is educate and step back. Betsy Riedel RNC, IBCLC Connecticut *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html