I'm afraid I disagree with the majority here. My first choice is always to orally coach a mother through a technique with her using her own body. If that's not working, and it is necessary to demonstrate techniques, manual expression, breast holds, etc., I always use a breast model. I may hold it over my own breast and shirt, but I feel it is important to do this to reinforce a level of professionalism and a degree of decorum and dignity , if you will, in our work. I can't imagine other medical professionals using their own bodies to demonstrate to patients. I guess the closest I could think of would be a plastic surgeon grabbing his belly flab when explaining a tummy tuck or pulling back his face when simulating a facelift. They don't do that. Even my physical therapist describes rather than demonstrates exercises. I admit it, I still do use my own breast in telephone counseling, but when I have an audience, no. Barbara Ash, MA, IBCLC, RLC Falls Church, VA *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html