Debbie You may be the bearer of sad news, but you aren't the bad guy. Can you salvage this for the mother by showing her how to mother her baby skin-to- skin, give the bottle "like a breastfeeder", and emphasize how bonding happens between mother and baby? She may not be the milk source, but she is still the love source. Hope this helps, and if not, the pounder bag of M&Ms will! *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html