"I remember seeing photographs at a conference actually showing fat droplets clinging to the duct walls before MER and then the same duct walls cleared of the fat globules after MER. It makes perfect physiological sense." In the Belgian organisation of health workers where I 'm employed, years ago they organised a symposium about breastfeeding. One of the speakers used the oneliner "they grow best on second breast". Still now this slogan is used in the classes for new beginning health nurses. The people who are responsable for this curse are people who have no experience in bf- counseling and -guiding. I'm not happy with the use of this one-liner. Too young mothers in our hospitals still hear the advise they should start bf with a climbing scheme (5' left, 5'right..). The use of this slogan is again a rule about how they should feed their baby, instead of feeding the baby on demand. I'm afraid some health nurses advise mothers to take the baby from the first breast before he finished it, to offer the second one. I asked where they found evicence for this slogan, but I still wait an answer. But they explained that this slogan was standing for the fact that, while the baby is drinking at the first breast, the hind- and formilk in the second breast are mixed already after MER. So in the second breast, they say, is never formilk anymore. I think this could be true when a mother has obviously a MER at second breast and she looses already a certain amount of milk. If she doesn't leak at second breast while baby drinks at first one, I can't imagine that the milk in the breast is already mixed and the fat droplets came free. I think it needs a powerfull stream of milk, to clear the duct walls from fat (in case the periods between feedings were long enough to speak about for- and hindmilk!). Does anyone know where I can find something about this subject or about this slogan? Best regards from Belgium! Christel Geebelen health nurse and lc *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html