You said the baby is now "needing" formula - I would want to know who made that determination, when the formula was started, and exactly how much formula is now being given. I had one friend who "decided" her baby wasn't getting enough (who knows why) and started offering a bottle after EVERY feeding. Well, we all know where that goes... My friend would have reported to anyone that her baby was breastfed, but the time between feeding stretched longer (hmm, why? He's stuffed!) and I can't imagine he was getting much breastmilk after just a few weeks of that routine. Can you help the mom gradually wean off the formula? She'll also need a lot of encouragement that gaining 8oz in a week is just fine, thank you, and gently inform her that her own mother probably had initial difficulties with latch, etc, and didn't have the fabulous support that she has (you), and discount the possibility of a genetic milk insufficiency without seeming to discredit the mom. plus - is grandma giving bottles and pushing baby to finish them? Lots of factors here! Kirsten Berggren, PhD *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html