<"...I find you have to switch approaches when what you're doing no longer works">. Susan I quite agree. Any intervention should be helping to advance breastfeeding and/or improve breastmilk production or a new plan is indicated. Marcia Annandale, LLLL, IBCLC Christchurch, New Zealand *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html